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Currently working on a part of my mother-in-law's tree, mostly centred in Cornwall, England.
Friday 20th April 2018
Sorry for the hiatus - I've been working on a private "commission" for a friend.
John James Trethewey was James' brother (the one who married Frances Knight - see 12th April) but also married another relative, this time another Trethewey, and so complicated the links (Ancestry calls him the husband of Jessie's great great aunt).I dealt with his wife Elizabeth on 7th April - see below. He was born in Apr 1821 at Germoe and christened there on 6 May, parents Thomas & Elizabeth née James. He can be seen in census of 1841 at Ashton, Breage
aged 20 with his parents & sibs, his father a tin miner. On 9 Nov 1850 at Calstock Parish Church he married Elizabeth
and they had 3 children. In 1851 census they were at Albaston, Calstock, John a copper miner and Elizabeth a dressmaker
In 1861-1891 he can be seen at 5 Sims Terrace, Gunnislake, firstly a tin & copper miner, then invalided, blind and deaf and after 1871 when widowed, living with his daughter Susan and her family.
He died aged 70 on 19 Mar 1892 and was buried on 24 Mar at the church shown above.
Joseph Trethewey was born in Mar 1734 in St Issey to Richard & Jenifer née Harris and christened there on 29 Apr but I cannot fix anything further to him. There is a marriage on 23 Jun 1760 in St Stephen-in-Brannel to a Caroline Rickard, but no indication this is our Joseph. A fellow genealogist has given death date as 30 May 1786, but I cannot locate that record.
Loveday Trethewey was the youngest of the 11 children of Thomas & Jane, born 11 Jun 1804 at St Stephen-in-Brannel and baptised there on 6 Aug. On 7 Mar 1830 in St Dennis, she married Nicholas Kent, a shoemaker from that village. Both witnesses were evidently his relatives and the record says "with consent of parents", which is odd as Loveday and Nicholas were 25 and 23 respectively. In 1841 census they can be seen at Little Tregargas, St Stephens with 5 children
They remained there over the next 4 censuses, although Nicholas died in 1865, leaving Loveday with Louisa, 3rd of their 8 children. Loveday died on 10 Nov 1882 at Trethosa Downs, another hamlet to the north of St Stephens. In 1861 census Nicholas was described as "shoemaker & Christian local preacher", the children all baptised as Wesleyans, so they no doubt frequented the Trethosa Chapel:
Loveday was buried on 13 Nov 1882 at Churchtown Cemetery, St Stephen-at-Brannel, featured at the top of this page.
Saturday 14th April 2018
Jenifer Trethewey2 was born in June 1741 at St Issey to Richard & Jenifer née Harris and christened there on 18 July
She returned to the sae church on 6 Jul 1766 to marry John William and they had 3 children, each christened at that church, and when she died she was buried there on 7 Jun 1827 with John, who had gone ahead in 1814.
John Trethewey1, Jenifer1's brother, was born 10 Apr 1790 at St Stephen-in-Brannel to Thomas & Jane. As I cannot locate a baptism record for him, nor a marriage, the next we hear of him is his death & burial. He died on 17 Nov 1866 and was buried 3 Dec, aged 76. He was a grocer & shopkeeper at "Union Road near St Austell" and left effects to his cousin John Trethewey Richards (son of aunt Ann Warne Trethewey), who worked with him.
John Trethewey2 was the 5th child of Richard & Mary née Warne, and thus Jessie's 4xgreat uncle, born May 1762 in St Stephen-in-Brannel and christened there on 5 June. He returned to the same church on 19 Mar 1786 to marry Elizabeth Parkin and they had nine children (but 2 died as children).John died aged 82 at Gonnamarras, St Stephens and was buried on 31st. Elizabeth followed 4 years later at the same age.
Friday 13th April 2018
I have already covered Jessie's great grandmother Jane - see 26th March - but her grandmother was another Jane, who I shall call Jane Trethewey2. She was born 1 Oct 1764 in Roche to parents with lovely names: Humphrey Betty Trethewey and Blanch Hendra. She was baptised on 5 Nov 1764 at St Stephen-in-Brannel but they lived in Roche and when she married on 4 Oct 1785 it was at the parish church there and was to Thomas Trethewey, son of Richard & Mary née Warne (brother of Elizabeth3) and they had 11 children together. They were still alive when 1841 census was held, living at Tresayes wirh a ?granddaughter looking after them. In the next household, probably next door, was their son Samuel, whose wife Mary née Snell had died in 1835, and he remarried - to another twig on our tree, Betsey Manhire, sister of the George who married Jane1. This happens a lot in country families! They can be seen at Tresayes in 1841 with 6 of their 8 children. Both Jane and Thomas died in 1846, he on 11 Jun and she a few weeks later on 5 Jul, both then buried in the churchyard at Roche.
Jenifer Trethewey was their daughter, 8th of the 11, born 10 Apr 1979 in Roche and christened there on 23 Apr 1797. On 13 Dec 1820 there she married Robert Goudge, but both her husband and her baby daughter Blanch died in 1822 (there was a lot of smallpox, influenza and cholera around at this time, it may have been an epidemic). Jenifer remarried on 4 Nov 1824, to Samuel Robins, local bachelor, and they had 5 children. In 1841 census they can be seen at Hendra, Roche with 2 daughters, Samuel a Mine Agent, then in 1851 at Rock Cottages with 2 children and a servant,
Samuel described as a "china clay merchant employing 16 men, 2 boys and 2 girls" - sounds impressive. It is even more so when you see the next census document, as it states that he had been deaf for 40 years! They seemed to have semi-retired (Sam was 65) and were living in a lodge at the gates of Buckfast Abbey.
[This has now been renovated and functions as a conference centre] He died in 1870 so Jenifer went to live with her eldest daughter Elizabeth Stick, who ran a drapery & grocer's shop in Parkwoon, and, although in 1871 census she was visiting daughter Charlotte & family in St Issey, she can be seen at Parkwoon in 1881 & 1891. She died there on 8 Oct 1892 aged 95 and was buried in St Gomonda's churchyard in Roche:
[in case you cannot see, it says: In loving memory of Jenifer Robins born Apr 10th 1797, died Oct 8th 1892, also of Paul Robins died Dec 17th 1834 aged 1 year 9 months, Thomas Trethewy Robins died May 17th 1844 aged 13 years. Also of Samuel Robins, husband and father of the above late of Rock Cottage in this parish, who died and was buried at Bodmin May 2nd 1870 aged 75]
Thursday 12th April 2018
The next Trethewey on the list is a link between branches. James Trethewey is familiar as the husband of Frances Knight. He was born in Breage, Cornwall in Nov 1825 to Thomas & Elizabeth née James and can be seen with them in 1841 census at Ashton, Breage, his father a miner. He followed suit and after marrying Frances can be seen with her, 2 daughters and a lodger in Sydenham Village, Devon, working as one himself. In 1861 he actually lived on site at the mine Wheal Maria (No. 4 Wheal Maria Cottages), Tavistock and was mining copper. There were 5 children and a servant at home, as eldest daughter Mary Jane was living with her grandparents. James was listed as a widower, and I can now see that Frances died early in 1860, having her 6th child, Emma, who followed her not long after the census was taken. James married Honor Doidge very soon after and she can be seen with him in censuses of 1871 & 1881 still at No 4, in the latter a family of Doidges were at No 8, possibly Honor's brother. As Honor died in 1882, in 1891 James would be shown as widower again, living in Tavistock, as that is where he died in 1894, but the only possibility I can locate is a father James living with daughter Mary Jane. The writing is atrocious but appears to say their surname is "Trate", and he was born in Devon. But it could well be them.
[Wheal Maria Cottages 1964. Nos 17-20 shown, so No 4 would be to the left]
Sunday 8th April 2018
Elizabeth Trethewey3 was born in Oct 1765, 6th child of Richard & Mary née Warne, and christened at St Stephen-in-Brannel on 27th Oct 1765. She returned to the church on 6 Oct 1787 to marry William Richard Pinch and they settled in Roche and went on to have 9 children. William died at Tregonhay, Roche in Dec 1829 and was buried on 2 Jan 1830 at the churchyard. Elizabeth joined him on 17 Mar 1843, dying at Broad Lane aged 77 of old age. She can be seen there on 1841 census, living with son Richard, a Clay Labourer and daughter Mary, housekeeper, described as a "poor widow".
Florence Trethewey was born 3 May 1821 in Roche to Richard & Susanna née Snell (Elizabeth1's sister) and baptised on 3 Jun 1821 by the Bodmin Wesleyan Circuit. On 21 Mar 1839 in Roche she married miner George Hawke and they had 12 children. In 1841 census they can be seen at Tresayes Lane, Roche with baby Ann, then 1851 at Colevreath with 5 children. In 1861 they were at the same place, now with 8 children, but George had changed his job. He was listed as "greengrocer", then in 1871 at Pentivale as "potato dealer". 1881 showed some changes as George died in 1880, so Florence can be seen with daughter Clara and her family, also 2 sons and a daughter-in-law. In Jul 1880 Clara had married next-door-neighbour Richard Hancock and can be seen in the census, taken 3 Apr 1881, when she must have been 5 months pregnant. She gave birth to a daughter Beatrice Clara on 23 Aug 1881 but did not survive and was buried 16 Aug 1881 in Roche churchyard. She was only 22.
Beatrice Clara Hancock in later years
So in 1891 Florence can be seen at Tresayes living on her savings with grand-daughter Jannie as domestic servant and Richard Hancock had remarried but was still living close by. Florence died aged 71 on 8 Jul 1892 at Tresayes and was buried with George in the churchyard on 11 Jul.
Elizabeth3's youngest sister Honor Trethewey was born in Jul 1774 at "Cregavause", St Stephen-in-Brannel (presumably a house, but no records of this exist) and christened on 8 Aug 1774. She returned to the church on 16 Jul 1795 to marry William Truscott and they had four daughters and possibly another son and daughter. What has confused me here is that Honor is sometimes heard (and transcribed) as Johanna, and Ann is sometimes written down as Nancy. I have a couple of wills for William, which mention a combination of these. Also, although they can be seen in 1841 census at Higher Gold Vanna (?), St Stephen-in-Brannel, William a carpenter, daughter Betsey Pucky and family and a possible granddaughter Jane Truscott Williams, I cannot find any of them in 1851. They may have been in St Dennis, as that was where William ostensibly died the following year. But an alternative for Honor appeared in the local paper in 1850:
which suggests a death before 1850 for William. There was a burial in 1849, age given as 75 and residence at St Stephens.
Saturday 7th April 2018
There are three Elizabeths in this tree:
Elizabeth Trethewey1 was born 20 Nov 1813 in Roche to Richard & Susanna née Snell, the 2nd of 7, and thus one of Jessie's great great-aunts. She was christened on 20 Dec 1813 at Bodmin Wesleyan Chapel - the one that is now a Wetherspoons see 26th March. I cannot find her in 1841 census, nor her future husband, John James Trethewey, but they married on 9 Nov 1850 in Calstock. In 1851 census they can be seen at Albaston, Calstock, Elizabeth a dressmaker, John a copper miner. By 1861 they had 2 children at home (eldest son Thomas lived with his grandmother in Roche) at Gunnislake. 1871 showed the address was 5 Sims Terrace, Gunnislake, Elizabeth still a dressmaker but by then John was an "invalided miner". Elizabeth died in Dec 1871 at home, aged 58, so in 1881 & 1891 censuses John can be seen at the same address with daughter Susan and her family. In 1881 he was blind and in 1891 blind and deaf. He died 1892.
[Sims Terrace from the rear 2017]
Elizabeth Trethewey2 was Blanch2's sister, another great great aunt, born 6th of the 11, in May 1791 in Roche and was christened there on 17 Jun 1791. On 23 Apr 1814 she returned to marry Joshua Thomas and they had 4 children. 1841 census found them at Killyvreath/Colevreath with daughter Elizabeth and 2 servants. They were still there in 1851 & 1861 (but Elizabeth had married and moved on), next door to son Reuben and his family. Joshua retired from farming in 1849, when he was 65, died at Rees Hill, Roche on 2 Oct 1864, and was buried in the churchyard on 5 Oct, along with Elizabeth, who had died at Colevreath the previous year and was buried there 22 Apr 1863. He left effects worth less than £300 to sons-in-law Edward Dyer and Joseph Higman.
Friday 6th April 2018
I'm back! Pressing on with the Tretheweys
Benjamin Trethewey was born in Feb 1739 to Richard and Jenifer née Harris and christened at St Issey on 9 Mar 1739. He was the 6th of their 7 children and Jessie's 5xgreat-uncle. On 17 May 1762 in St Breock he married Elizabeth Woolcock and they had 8 children (although I cannot prove the middle five, as they were born in Devon and my baptisms come from Cornwall. My information on the Devon babies was obtained by a fellow genealogist from the Trethewey Society, who presumably run a One-Name-Study). They moved back to Cornwall for the final two babies but Benjamin died on 30 May 1786 at St Stephen-in-Brannel, aged 47, Elizabeth followed only 6 years later. Thomas, the youngest, was only 5 years old when his father died, 10 when his mother did, but as Richard, the eldest, was by then 30 he was no doubt looked after.
There are two Blanch Tretheweys in this tree. The first was Jessie's 5xgreat aunt, sister of Benjamin, born Oct 1724 and christened 23 Nov 1724 at St Issey. She was unmarried when she died aged 67 in Jun 1792 at St Issey and was buried at St Stephen-in-Brannel on 2 Jul 1792. In case you have not realised, it is this churchyard that features on the top of each page here.
Blanch Trethewey2 was the child of her nephew Thomas, who may have named his daughter after her, as she was born 6 years after her death. She was Jessie's 3xgreat aunt, born Aug 1798 in Roche, 9th of the 11 children of Thomas & Jane. On 22 Oct 1826 in Roche she married Joseph Lawry and had six children with him defore he died on 3 Oct 1839 and was buried in the churchyard in Roche on 6 Oct, when his youngest son, Walter, was only a few months old.
Blanch continued to bring up her children alone, and only re-married in Jan 1859 when they were all supporting themselves. She married widower William Cock, a merchant, in Jan 1859 in Tywardreath, where they were both living. He had just one daughter from his first marriage, Angelina. Following the censuses, Blanch can be seen in 1841 at Trefonhay, Roche, a widowed farmer with 4 children and 3 servants (the scan is so bad I cannot tell whether they were farm workers or house servants). Again in 1851 she is described as Farmer, this time of 40 acres and with 3 children and a house servant. By 1861 she had joined William at Burney, and can be seen with him and one house servant. He was described as a "China Clay Stone Agent employing 8 men, 10 boys and 6 girls". 10 years before, he had been living at Burney with his first wife, Priscilla née Moss, only 2 houses from Richard and Martha Manhire, not so odd really, as it was Blanch's niece Jane who married a Manhire around this time and thus linked the families). In 1871 Blanch had been widowed again and can be seen at Parkwoon, Roche, retired, living with daughter Jane Trethewey Cock, a 35-year-old schoolmistress. It was the same in 1881 but this time next door to John & Maria Manhire. When she died, in Oct 1884, aged 86, she was living at Pendean Mills (Pendean was a tiny hamlet, part of Roche, comprising 3 tenements and a mill) and she was buried at the church in Roche on 19 Oct.
Tuesday 27th March 2018
As I found so many on this branch yesterday I shall continue as usual alphabetically. Jane had six siblings and her father Richard had ten. I shall try not to move too far afield, as Jane herself is Jessie's (my mother-in-law - this is her tree) great great grandmother and this tree goes a long long way back. Richard's father Thomas not only had 12 children, he also married one Jane Trethewey, just to add to the confusion! Following the very excellent Cornwall baptism records available, I have traced this tree back to the Robert Trethewey who was Jessie's 8xg grandfather, born around 1610ish. Unfortunately, they appeared to be fixated on the same bunch of names and repeated them again and again!
Ann Trethewey was born Jan/Feb 1826 at Tresayes, Roche to Richard and Susanna, Jane's youngest sibling. Tresayes used to be a quarry but is now a nature trail:
As there are six Richards in this tree, I will call him Richard2, as my genealogy database (in its infinite wisdom!) calls him. She was christened on 23 Feb 1826 in Roche. By the time of the 1841 census she was 15, and can be seen lodging on a farm in (what looks like) Little Tregoning, Newlyn, St Columb Major. By 1851 her father had married for a third time and she can be seen living with them at St Austell Road, Roche. On 16 Oct 1853 she married William Edyvean, tailor, from Tresayes, where she was born, his father John a tinner there. In 1861 they were living at Tresayes with daughter Eva (aged 6 by then), with Trethewey families either side of them. In 1871 they had moved into larger premises and now had 3 boarders staying, one probably employed by William in his tailor business. In 1881 he had trained up daughter Eva as a tailoress and they can be seen living next door to the Rectory - this may well be the same place; there is a modern estate on this plot nowadays. Ann died in Aug 1885 at Churchtown, aged 59 and William died aged 63 in 1889. In the next census. Eva was working as a Housekeeper in Lanivet.
Ann Warne Trethewey was born 26 Dec 1771 in St Stephens-in-Brannel to Richard3 and Mary Warne and christened there on 19 Jan 1772. On 3 Jun 1793 she married John Richards and they had seven children. By the 1841 census John can be seen living with a family of Richards and John Trethewey at Stenalees. I can't track Ann down at this point and when John died in 1847, there is a record for her burial too at St Stephens. I cannot see the stone, but this may be why, as a transcription of the inscription may well have included her on the same date. She can clearly be seen though - along with her very useful middle name - in censuses of 1851 & 1861 at Trethosa Cottage, Trethosa Mill, St Stephens, with her son William and his family, living on Independent Means. He ran a grocer's shop and also in 1861 farmed 30 acres too. She died in Apr 1861 aged 89 and was presumably buried with John at St Stephens cemetery.
Monday 26th March 2018
Onwards now to another neglected branch, Jessie's paternal great grandmother Jane married George Manhire. When I first studied this tree, I had her down as Hewitt, but last year discovered she recorded herself on the children's birth registrations as née Trethewey, so I am happy to go with that (the name Hewett came from a mistranscription on the 1881 census - which I have reported to Findmypast). As I said when covering George on 20 Mar 2017, in 1841 census she called herself Mrs Manhire as they had a child, Susanna, (who I now see was named after Jane's mother). The marriage shown on the Cornwall OPC site from Parish Registers last year is no longer there, so I shall just say they may have been married prior to 1837 when registration was introduced and the record has been lost. She was born on 18 Aug 1812 in Roche and christened on 10 Sep 1812 in the Wesleyan Chapel in Bodmin (which is now incidentally the local Wetherspoons - and very nice it is too!)
I told the rest of her story last year with George. The only new thing is her death record:
She was buried the next day at Treverbyn
I am trying to sort out her family. Originally I thought there weren't many in her tree, but have had one of those breakthroughs that opens the floodgates. It is made more difficult by the fact that a couple of her female relatives married Tretheweys too.
Saturday 24th March 2018
I hope the branch of my other paternal great grandmother will be more fruitful than yesterday. Again, I covered grandfather's paternal family, the Hennigs, in 2013 & 2015, but not that of his mother, the Krumreys. I don't know how many new German records are available, but as I haven't mentioned them here before, except in passing, I should be OK.
Unfortunately, as I have said before, I don't have access to many German death records, so these stories are somewhat truncated, and hard to set in order.
As usual, I shall deal with the family members I have located in alphabetical order. This means starting with Henriette's brother Carl Gottlieb Krumrey. So I had a shock right at the start because once I found his date of birth I discovered he only lived for two days! I can't imagine what an emotional Christmas that must have been! The reason this information came to light was the church records were not written up until after the holidays, when both birth and death were noted on the burial notice. He was born on 22 Dec 1801 in Prenzlau, died on Christmas Eve (a hugely important day in Europe) and buried on 26 Dec at St Sabine, Prenzlau.
(Although the centre of Prenzlau was flattened in WW2 the church survived)
Great great grandma Henriette Wilhelmine Krumrey herself was next, born 4 Jul 1803 in Prenzlau to Carl Ludwig Krumrey, burger, and Juliane Florentine Gottschalk (sometimes known as Justine) and christened 15 Jul 1803 at St Sabine (see above). On 5 Oct 1824 in Berlin she married Johann Christian Hennig and they had 3 children. On her death record it states she was 32, but as it was 14 Dec 1833 she was actually only 30. She was buried 18 Dec 1833 in Berlin.
Oops, I have slipped out of alphabetical order. Next should be their father Carl Ludwig Krumrey, born in 1772 (although where and exactly when has not emerged, nor his parents' names). On 13 Nov 1800 he married Juliane Florentine Gottschalk at St Nicolai, Prenzlau, which dates from 1275 but has been rebuilt several times - here shown on a post card:
They had 4 children, the first Carl above, died in infancy, the second was my great great grandmother, also see above. Unfortunately I know no more about Carl or Juliane.
Christian Krumrey was Carl Ludwig's father, but that's all I know (his name was on the marriage record, but no more).
There were two babies born to Carl and Juliane called Justine. Justine Elisabeth Krumrey was born 12 Apr 1808 and christened on 1 May, but died at 6 months on 4 Nov 1808. She was buried on 6 Nov at St Sabine. Justine Sophie Charlotte followed on 27 Oct 1809, christened 16 Nov 1809 at St Sabine, but there was another heart-breaking discovery: she died aged almost two on 30 Jul 1811, buried 1 Aug, again at St Sabine.
Wilhelm Friedrich Gottlieb Krumrey did survive and had an interesting story - in a way. He was born 11 Nov 1805 in Prenzlau and christened 26 Nov at St Nikolai above. In 1832 at St Sabine he married Christine Friedrike Henriette Henkel and had 8 children with her. Unfortunately at least two died in infancy and Wilhelm died on his 40th birthday 11 Nov 1845. He was buried at Prenzlau and Christine married a local baker called Eduard Julius Gothan, with whom she had 3 more children (who all survived). In 1855 Christine and Eduard took their remaining 6 children to Jackson, Michigan, where they settled. Christine died in 1889 aged 82 and Eduard in 1896 aged 77.
Well, that was an odd day, full of peering at 200-year-old documents written in loopy German, sometimes only able to pick out the names. Tomorrow, another branch altogether, on another tree.
Friday 23rd March 2018
Before I resume here, I would like to say we saw my mother off in style yesterday. It was lovely to meet up with many I hadn't seen for years, except through this site, as well as the usually family crowd.
Kathleen Matthews née Gamble 13 May 1932 - 23 Feb 2018 R.I.P.
I shall continue to update those branches of the trees that have been covered less than others. Another of my paternal great grandmothers was Emily Ann Parker and I covered that family in 2014 and 2016, but her mother was Ann Denny Cooley, and, despite having such a wonderful name, I haven't researched her branch at all. However, today I didn't get very far with her. All I know is that she was born in about 1821 and she had a sister, possibly twin, Maria. By 1881, when the sisters were living together, they both said they were widows, but I cannot find a marriage for Maria, apparently to a Mr Lucas. The middle name Denny crops up in a John Denny Cooley, who was father of an Ann, but as the birth dates are nearly 20 years apart, I suspect there is another Ann in a generation between them. Unfortunately there are far too many unknowns here, so I cannot go on.
Monday 19th March 2018
Richard Ingram - see 15th May 2016 - George & Jemima's 9th and final child. Baptism:
Witnesses can be seen to be his brother James and wife Sarah, and the fact he (Richard) is described as a waiter suggests he was in service somewhere in 1841. As I have said before, his employer would give the information to the census-taker, and many would not know the first name of their employees. Of course, this is not helped in 1841 census by the rounding-up of ages. I was also unable to find anything relating to his death in newspapers, as 1853 is missing in the Findmypast database.
Sarah Ann Ingram - see 17th May 2016 - I have a scan of her baptism:
I also re-examined 1939 Register and the closed file has been opened. It wasn't a servant, it was Hubert's daughter (not Herbert, but the writing was debateable) born 23 Nov 1917, married 25 Jan 1940 in Hull to a man with the impressive name of Heigham Owen Jarvis. In 1939 she was listed as UDD and presumably looked after Sarah Ann, then married when she died.
Sarah's father William Ingram - see 18th May 2016 - the scan of his baptism:
shows that on the same day was baptised one Eliza Whittick, probably a cousin. I cannot locate a scan of his first marriage in 1842 but his second:
His son William Henry Ingram's baptism:
As he emigrated in 1865, before the shipping passenger lists begin, I cannot track him down on the journey. However, he appeared in 1870 aged 23, already a "surveyor of lumber" (I hadn't found this census before, as he was down as "Ingraham").
Sunday 18th March 2018
Back to the Ingrams.
James Ingram - see 10th May 2016 - nothing new
James Henry Ingram - the account on the same day 2016 was very detailed indeed, but all the scans are now available:
and we can see that James' parents witnessed both marriages.
Jane Ingram, his daughter, was likewise very detailed in 2016, and again I fortunately now have the scans to show you:
Jane Ingram 2 - see 11th May 2016 - unfortunately I cannot find a baptism for her. It eems that William and Jane only got round to baptism for William, not Jane or George. As she didn't marry, I have no news certs.
My great great grandmother Jemima Ingram - see 11th May 2016 - I now have sight of the baptism scan and notice she was christened with a John Whittick, who could be a cousin.
I cannot find anything new after this.
Maria Lewis Ingram - see 16th May 2016 - baptism
Saturday 17th March 2018
As it is St Patrick's Day, and there have been a lot of new Irish records released, I have decided to suspend the Ingrams for today and concentrate on the Irish part of this tree.
As you know, my paternal grandmother Florence Hennig's mother Catherine was born in Ireland in approx. 1840. I have now found her baptism 28 May 1839 at St Finbarr's, Cork and this gives her parents as James Noonan and Catherine née Hyde, the ceremony performed by Rev Alex Mahoney and sponsors (god-parents) Patrick Riordan and Bridget Callaghan.
Now, having found St Finbarr's it wasn't difficult to pinpoint her parents' marriage there on 24 Sep 1826. Beautiful place!
Unfortunately, although someone at the archive has transcribed the burials here for 1867-96 this does not cover the period I am interested in. Catherine's father James was already gone by the time she married in 1867 and the family was in London. However, there are buried in the cemetery above four local Noonans who may well be twigs on my tree:
Catherine Noonan, widow, who died 24 Jan 1876 of bronchitis, aged 60, at 2 Ferry Lane, Pope's Quay.
Josephine Noonan, died 5 Jan 1888 aged 1 year of measles, Publican's child from 20 Paul Street, Cork
Mary Noonan, died 5 Mar 1891 aged 65 of "natural decay", lived at North Main Street, Cork but died in Union Hospital (?part of the workhouse), Dealer's widow
George Edward Noonan, who died 30 Aug 1891 of diarrhoea, aged apparently 120 (!) - 120 days? "Contner's child" - may be vintner's child mistranscribed.
Trying to pin down Catherine Hyde's parents was hard, as 4 baptisms seem to suit, in other churches in Cork, leading to parents called
David & Catherine née Connel
John & Catherine née Neil
Jeremiah & Catherine née Clary (twice, presumably the earlier one died).
I did find a baptism for Catherine Hyde in 1802 at St Finbarr's, but the names are unclear and have been transcribed as Berd Hide & Nancy McNamara. I can only guess Berd is short for Bernard, and I can find nothing to match this.
There was a couple James and Catherine Noonan, who seemed a somewhat dramatic pair, always in and out of court; on one occasion in 1855 she accused him of assaulting her (dismissed), in 1850 she had been imprisoned for 1 month, but the offence is frustratingly illegible. It looks like "insub in W/H" but if this means "insubordination in the Workhouse", imprisonment seems somewhat harsh! Anyway, I have no way of proving whether these are "my" James & Catherine, and have my doubts as the court appearances go on after my Catherine came to England, e.g. in 1861 Catherine took one Richard Fitzgerald to court for setting his dogs on a heifer on her land, again dismissed.
Trying to find James' parents was fruitless, and I suspect he was from out of the area, as no baptisms appear for his name around the correct date.
Well, that was quite productive, although I shall probably disprove most of it next time I come to research this family!
Tuesday 13th March 2018
On 7th May 2016, when I studied the three Georges in this tree, I called the eldest one George Ingram 1, my 3x great grandfather, and had his records from marriage onwards. I have been seeking a birth around 1773 but kept coming up with the two options I mentioned before. Another one is 7 Feb 1773 in Manchester Cathedral, transcribed as "Ingham" - I cannot see a scan so don't know how accurate that is. [Later: I have seen Bishop's Transcript and it is clearly Ingham, but that doesn't prove anything]. Nothing else is new.
His son George Ingram 2 was covered, but I now have scans of christening:
Also, the burial of his first wife and marriage to his second, which is worryingly in the wrong order:
unless of course the burial was much delayed. I can't find anything in the newspaper, and of course Registration didn't come in until the following year.
The other, George Ingram 3, was his grandson, who went Up North and joined the police force, then got involved in a scam, lost his job and ended up a tobacconist. His story would make a good TV show or movie. No new records or scans are available.
Henry Villiers Ingram - see 11th May 2016 - brother of Edith & Elizabeth. Nothing new.
Henry Wilkins Ingram was troublesome for me in 2016 and now I believe I had his middle name wrong. The scan clearly says "Villiers", but was transcribed as Wilkins.
So, I think the one above was his nephew and named after him. As his father was a waiter, and he was in the 1841 census, I think it very likely that he was the Eating House Keeper who married in Walcot in 1863, especially as one of the witnesses was a Charles Ingram
and he had a brother by that name (although by then living in London). Unfortunately that hasn't helped me, as I still cannot find more for him, or now for her. No announcement was made in the newspapers, as records for those jumps from 1862 to 1865 in this area.
Sunday 11th March 2018
My 3xg grandfather William Henry Hawkins , father of Harriet from yesterday, was born Apr 1808 in Canterbury, Kent to John Hawkins and Elizabeth (I cannot find a marriage record for them, so don't know her maiden name). He was christened on 19 May 1808 at St Mildred's, Canterbury
[1807. The tower has since been removed]
As I said yesterday, when he was 17 he and Harriet Payne had a daughter they called Harriet. Henry was evidently a big, strong lad, as he worked as a Brewer's Labourer, carrying barrels etc about. In 1841 census they can be seen at Wood Cottages, Salt Box Row, Mortlake, Surrey, Harriet known as Hawkins, claiming to be his wife. I have searched in vain for a marriage in 1820s, the only one available dated 1867. Historically the area around Mortlake belonged to the Archbishops of Canterbury, so this may have led to them settling there. One of the most famous features of this area was the Mortlake Brewery, which was the largest employer at that time, thus he was in the right place at the right time to become a brewer. In 1841 he was a labourer, and their address was Wood Cottages, accompanied by a note "near the vineyard". The Vineyard became a noted area, beside the land bought up by the brewery in the 1850s and 1860s. In 1851, as I said yesterday, grandson Henry was with them, then in 1861 William's sister Sarah and grandaughter Alice Gamble aged 2. By this time William had left the brewery (big changes were afoot there, as they were buying up land and building a new brewery 1865) and was listed as a Coal Merchant. In 1871 census he had retired and they can be seen in almshouses just around the corner, built by Bristol philanthropist Edward Coulson, who had a house nearby, which eventually became part of the brewery. William died in Jul 1877 aged 72 and was buried in St Mary's cemetery on 19 Jul. Harriet followed after she died aged 84 in Richmond Union Infirmary (attached to the workhouse) and was buried in the same plot on 16 Mar 1891. See yesterday for photo. As far as I can see Hawkins plot N54 was not close to the Gamble plot Y142, but without visiting I can't be sure.
William's son John Hawkins is not forthcoming with any information, so I shall move on to another tree. My mother's tree has been fully covered, so I shall try to plug a large "hole" in my father's tree.
See my blog on 1st May 2016. Great great grandmother Jemima Ingram's family - she married Gorge Matthews and was my father's paternal great grandmother.
Ann Ingram died aged 8 months and I have a scan of the burial record:
Charles Lewis Ingram, Jemima's brother - see 3rd May 2016 - I now have a scan of his baptism in Walcot:
There was a Charles Lewis Nathaniel Ingram who kept leading me astray, but his father was different, so with a bit of double-checking I could separate possible marriages etc. and military records all belonged to him.
Edith Sabina Ingram - also see 3rd May 2016 - at this stage I already knew 1939 Register, so there is nothing to update.
Elizabeth Mary Ingram - see 4th May 2016 - baptism scan is now available:
Her sister Emily Ingram was similar, although I cannot access the baptism scan for some reason. Her death was reported in the local paper:
27 Feb 1919
In 2016 I didn't report on Emily Jane Ingram because she barely lived for 2 years and I didn't have anything to show you. I now have scans for both birth and death. She was born in Mar 1820 at Arundel Court, Walcot to George and Jemima, 7th child of their 9 and was christened on 16 Apr 1820 at St Swithin's.
She died just before her 2nd birthday and was buried on 24 Jan 1822 at St John the Baptist
Saturday 10th March 2018
At present I am trying to "mop up" updates to those branches I have covered less than others. While on my mother's tree I shall examine the Hawkins branch next. My great great grandmother was Harriet Hawkins and she married great great grandfather James Hugh Gamble. She was born in 1825 in Canterbury, Kent to William Henry Hawkins and Harriet Payne, who were both 17. By the time of the first census in 1841 she was 15 herself and can be seen at Old Market Street, Bristol, working as a servant to a pawnbroker. As often happens, it seems to me, history repeated itself in that she had a child very young, but she did marry first. On 3 Apr 1843 at St Andrew's Holborn she married James Hugh Gamble
In 1851 census she can be seen at 53 Regency Square, Brighton, working as a nurse in the home of a "landed proprietor", while 5 year old son Henry was living with her parents and James was lodging nearby in Mortlake High Street with a greengrocer and family. The following year they all got back together, and lived in Chiswick for a couple of years, 2 further sons born in that area. By the time Alice was born in 1858 they were back in Mortlake and Thomas followed in 1859. 1861 census found them living in Back Lane, Barnes, James was working as a "flyman", i.e. driving a cab, they had 4 children, including Maria only 13 days old and as yet unnamed. Edward was born in 1866 in Mortlake then Isaac (my great grandfather) in Kew. In 1871 they can be seen at Laurel Cottage, Mortlake with four children and they had taken in a boarder. By 1881 they were still there but with only 2 children left at home. James was still working as a cab driver (Isaac followed him into this occupation). I don't know what happened at Christmastime 1883 but James was admitted to the Workhouse in Kew on 2 Jan 1884 and then again 15 Jul 1886 at Richmond. The record mentions his 4 sons by name but I cannot see a scan, so don't know if they were there with him. Unfortunately he was still there when he died in Apr 1890 and was buried on 5 May in St Mary's, Mortlake
Of course, in those days, if you were widowed under these circumstances, it was not good for you if you could not keep yourself. The NHS and Welfare State were years off. So the following year Harriet can be seen in the census at 35 Glasshouse Street, Lambeth (this is Vauxhall) aged 62, and Isaac is with her, working as a Master Cabman, and all is well. However, Isaac married the following year and Harriet was left alone. She can be seen in 1901 at 17 Regency Place, Lambeth, although with several other people. This is just across the main road from Isaac's home, where my grandparents later lived, and I spent much of my childhood - but it is also a stone's throw from the Lambeth Workhouse, which is where we find her next.
Apparently she was admitted on 25 May 1903 aged 76 and the record is distressing: It states as previous address "Streets" and under Name and address of relative or friend "None". She had 6 of her 8 children still alive at that time! I don't know what caused the rift in the family, but when she died at the workhouse in Jul 1913 aged 82 she was buried with James in Mortlake, having been in the Lambeth workhouse for 10 years! She was listed as Nurse (Maternity) so I don't understand why she wasn't in demand.
Tuesday 6th March 2018
Maurice Sidney Taylor, always known as Sidney, was dealt with on 19th June 2015 in some detail, but then vanished. It was not through lack of records, so things haven't improved. His names are confusing, and there are several Maurices and many Sidneys to follow.
In 2015 I said the following with regard to this tree:"I have no idea what the thinking was behind it, but Thomas and Mary Alice decided to name their 4th & 5th children Thomas Charles Henry and Thomas Charles Hinton. They were subsequently known as Tommy and Hinton, but it certainly made it difficult for me!"
Thomas Charles Hinton Taylor - see 22nd June 2015 - in 1939 Register the family can be seen at Dashwood, St Neots Road, Hardwicke, Cambs. I have just spent ages tracing the properties shown in the road, to no avail, as they all had names in 1939 and numbers now. Then I remembered the map attached to the scan by Findmypast. However, this shows they lived in the village of Toft to the south of Hardwick, where there is no St Neots Road. Of course, the area nowadays is dominated by the A428, which was St Neots Road in parts, so there may be nothing left. However, it was useful to know what they were known as; Thomas C H and Rose H Taylor. This enabled me to find their death records. Hinton died only 3 years later and his death was registered 60 miles away in Brentford, Rose 22 years after this in that same area.
[Hinton is back right in this family snap from 1920]
His brother Thomas Charles Henry Taylor, known as Tommy, was covered on 25th June 2015, and the 1939 Register entry on Sunday (below). The former butcher's shop may well have been renovated at this point, because Tom junior was a Postman and the house in Newbury Street now had no butchers in it.
The remaining two on this branch were also duplicates, but this time not brothers, so more excusable! William Henry Taylor aka Harry was covered on 9th July 2015, but I finished it in cousin Vic's words. My 1st-cousin-twice-removed Dewey died aged only 27 in 1908 in Southwark, and her husband Harry in Lambourn on 29 Aug 1920 aged 48. The children moved around the family, as Vic said.
Their son William James Taylor aka Jim was really frustrating, as I had no idea which name to look for. We left him in 1930 working on the Isle of Wight as a waiter, but I cannot find him in 1939 Register as William or James. Likewise no death record.
Monday 5th March 2018
Frederick J W Taylor will be quick, I'm afraid. He was born Jan 1921 in Lambourn to John & Emily, 5th child of 6. I should be able to track him down there in 1939 but I cannot. He was 18 so may be in the services somewhere, excluded through secrecy or stationed abroad. I have found him after the war; on 14 May 1946 he boarded HMS Winchester Castle and sailed from Southampton to Durban, intending to settle in Northern Rhodesia. He was listed as a Carpenter aged 25 with home address of Mill Lane, Lambourn. He died in 1974 in Lusaka, Zambia, aged 53.
His sister Gladys Taylor was born Jan 1914 in Lambourn but that's all I know. By 1939 she was probably married, but I cannot find a record that matches, so I don't know a surname.
Their brother Harry was born (as Henry Thomas Taylor) 5 Aug 1910 in Lambourn and can be seen in 1911 census with parents & sister at Millbrook, Mill Lane, Lambourn, aged 7 months. Vic mentioned in his book that Harry was staying with Uncle Jim & Alice in 1930 in Kew and I can see that on 31 Aug 1935 in Pancras, London he married Dora Florence Dexter, local girl whose father was killed, fighting in Flanders when she was 3. In 1939 Register they can be seen at 55 Orme Road, Kingston, Surrey
Harry was listed as "Carpenter Joiner Foreman" and there is a closed record, presumably their daughter Nora, who was just a year old. I can't find any more details, just the deaths of Dora in 1992 and Harry in 1993 at 47 Sugden Road, Long Ditton, Surrey
3½ miles from Orme Road. Harry left £125,000, possibly the value of the house.
I wrote about the other Henry Taylor on13th June 2015, Annie's grandfather. I'm afraid the scans of 1841 census have not improved as the ink has faded, and everything else was covered before.
Jim (James King Taylor) - see 14th June 2015 - appeared in a few more "snapshots", which help fill in the details of his life. On 4 Dec 1927 he gave away his youngest, daughter Doris, who married Archibald Poley, engineer, giving as her home address 6 The Green, Kew
the butcher's shop, which still looks exactly the same in 2017. The next snapshot in 1939 caught him in the same house/shop along with son Cecil & wife, daughter Doris & her husband. I also have exact dates for his birth 6 May 1873 and death 8 May 1957, and he was cremated in Oxford on 13 May 1957.
For Jack (John Taylor) see 15th June 2015 and I described the 1939 Register on Saturday under Doris. He was listed as Carpenter & Wheelwright.
I told Kate's (Mary Kate Taylor) story in detail on 18th June 2015 and the only thing I can add now is 1939 Register. I did say before that she was crippled with rheumatoid arthritis, and her father Tom was living in Newbury Street next to the Lamb. I have found her next door, in the cottage attached to the pub (here on the right, Tom's house/shop on the left)
Here is the pub with cottage in 2011
I understand that in 2013-16 there was a plan to turn this into a specialist horse vet practice, but can't see that anything has happened. The cottage used to be a mill called Tadpole Mill and a stream runs alongside it. I can see it was useful for Kate, as it was on a level with the road. Meanwhile, Percy can be seen with Vic at 14 Rockfield Avenue, Ealing, along with William Dickie, husband of Winnie who helped look after Kate in the cottage, who was a wholesale drapery salesman and Percy was a "travelling insurance agent" but "totally disabled" - I can't see how that would work without the technology of today!
Sunday 4th March 2018
Florence Lilian Taylor (Dot) was covered in detail on 11th June 2015 but I now have 1939 Register, which answers the question of the 2 possible children from "Staines, Herts" - there is no sign of them, just one child, a closed file as she (Audrey) had not died. The family can be seen at 69 Oakwood Road, Finchley
George is listed as Warehouse Foreman, Dot as Housewife and they had a ?lodger Reginald Stanley, removals transport manager, and one closed file for Audrey.
Frederick Taylor, known as Shady, was covered on 11th & 12th June 2015. All I can add now is 1939 Register, where he can be seen with a couple John & Emily Giddings. Frederick is listed as General Labourer. I have looked again for military records but can find none - or rather many! It is a common name, unfortunately. Any help would be appreciated if anyone recognises the uniform:
Harriet (Annie) Taylor was covered also on 12th June 2015, in great detail, so it suffices only now to say she can be seen in 1939 Register with her brother Tom in Newbury Street, Lambourn.
I would imagine Edward was still in London, while his company wound up, but if he was at 52 Wedgewood House, China Walk, I cannot find it (I know he was there in 1930). With Tom & Sarah were also their sons William, errand boy, and Edward, yardman. I have a note that both died in 1942, so will look into this. There were also in this household Annie's daughter Gertrude Fitzgerald and her daughter Jill (the other genealogist in this tree, who I have mentioned before), who was just a baby. [OMG I have just realised for her to be shown, she must have died! Jill, if you are reading this and it is a mistake, please get in touch with me!] I shall no doubt return to this record again.
Saturday 3rd March 2018
Robert Mayes Small - see 4th June 2015 - I now have a (bad - sorry) scan of his marriage
This tells me they married on Christmas Day and that Robert was illiterate, as he "made his mark". By 1911, though, he ostensibly completed and signed the schedule, although he was a roadsweeper, and wasn't expected to write.
Sidney Alfred Small - see 5th June 2015, when I had details up to 1898. I have looked into the war records I mentioned and was convinced it was him, as the age is exactly right - 33 years and 11 months. If so, he was mobilised in May 1918 but discharged only 4 months later "unfit for war service" due to "chronic interstitial pneumonia aggravated by military service" (seems odd they didn't pick this up earlier, as he had been deemed Category A on joining up). Anyway, the problem arose with his marriage in 1915. Details led me to a record which stated his father was John Small, labourer, and a witness was a Christina Small, who I don't know of. So, I suspect another blind alley. As I said in 2015, there are many Sidney Smalls, some of which emigrated.
William Small - see 7th June 2015 - was similar in that I traced him into the Services, then he vanished. Even less joy this time, as I discovered the baptism record I had stated his father was called William, his mother Ann. How frustrating!
The next family I have only studied once is the Taylors. Part of my maternal grandfather's tree, they married into the Cox branch and are thus quite obscure relatives - Ancestry tell me that the first one, Alice Louisa Taylor, is related to me by being
niece of spouse of 1st cousin 2x removed
So I shall try to move on quickly
But I do need to stop here for a while, as I have picked her up with husband Philip in 1939 Register and thus disproved one of my conjectures, involving 4 children in Newbury. In 1939 they can be seen with no children at Riverside Cottage, Hungerford
nowadays a fishing cottage available to rent. Philip was listed as "shoeing and general smith, acetylene welder". Daughter Carol is still a possibility, although Poole, where her birth was registered, is 70 miles away, not in Berkshire at all.
Cissie Alice Taylor needs no searching - on 8th June 2015 I had a huge amount of detail. the only new info I have is the 1939 Register, but I already knew where they were from the electoral register - Tufnell Park. The Merlin Rees I mentioned had gone (possibly called up) and by then they were alone at 76 Bickerton Road, just half a mile away. Brinley was a glazier - about to get extremely busy once the bombing started!
I didn't mention Doris I Taylor in 2015 because I knew almost nothing about her. She was born in Lambourn in Jul 1927 to John & Emily née Chapman, sister of Alice above, but 19 years younger, at the opposite end of the 6 siblings. In 1939 Register she can be seen with her parents at Millbrook, Hungerford, father John a carpenter & wheelwright, mother Emily UDD. There is a Mrs Doris Cox with them, but I shall have to seek her out when I do the Coxes again. I think it may be Dolly See, who married Henry Thomas Cox. He was relocated to Liverpool with his company in 1939, so she may have been staying with family meanwhile (John was her uncle). And there is a closed file, which may be her son Peter. In Apr 1950 in Newbury Doris married Leslie Cooper (who may have been the one with his family in 1939 Register at 7 Dunstan Green, Thatcham) but I cannot find a death for either.
Friday 2nd March 2018
Due to adverse weather conditions I am back here sooner than expected.
The next Small I tackled (on 1st June 2015) was the patriarch of this tree, Richard Small. As he was born in 1803 and was (probably) married around 1822, both before the inroduction of registration in England & Wales in 1837, it is difficult to prove his early life. I have now a scan of his second marriage, where he names his father as Joseph, a printer.
What worries me there is that he did not say "deceased", and although not impossible to be 90 at your son's marriage, it would be rare. He said in censuses that he was born around 1802/3 in Bloomsbury, London, so Joseph was probably born around 1780. There are 2 births in the same area at that time, one to a Mary & Edward and one to Samuel & Elizabeth. But as I cannot prove either I shall just put the information to you (and it goes in my notes in pencil!) Another piece of information from the record above is Mary's father, James Ginn. Now I can see the record for her previous marriage in 1844 and her life with first husband William Bedlow. Another of those odd coincidences appears here - her first marriage was at St Mary's, Lambeth, a church we know well! They went on to have three daughters but William died in 1857, when the youngest Charlotte was only a baby. Mary kept the family by working as a "Charwoman" (cleaner), However, by the time she married Richard, the children were grown, and in 1871 census they can be seen at 31 Wellington Street, where Mary died in 1876 aged 55. Now, the other issue here is his children with Louisa. I had assumed that they had just three; James b 1823, Henry b 1826 and Louisa b 1829. However, I have seen baptisms for three further children at the same church, giving parents' names of "Richard Small and Louisa", dated 1817, 1819 and 1820. These may not be them, as they would be remarkably young parents, but in the absence of a marriage record I cannot be sure. I will probably never know... The final years of his life in the Workhouse was outlined in 2015 and I can see the scanned records, culminating in his death on 1 May 1889 at City Road Workhouse, Holborn
Tuesday 27th February 2018
See 22nd May 2015 for Louia Annie Small. She was another of Harry & Daisy's sisters, born 1883 and brought up in institutions with her siblings. I was having trouble with her after the death of her husband Stephen, but thanks to the 1939 Register I have found out what she did after that. In Jul 1935 she married George Thomson and they can be seen in 1939 at Paygate Cottage, Broad Oak, Heathfield. However I can find no more, a death for either of them or any details of George, apart from that he was a Saddler's Harness Maker. Her son William Russell was with them in 1939, a 26-year-old Ag Lab.
For my great great grandmother Louisa Eliza Small, see the very detailed account on 25th May 2015. I now have a scan of her baptism:
and her marriage:
The other Louisa Eliza Small - see 27th May 2015 - her aunt, was baptised with her brother Henry on 28 Dec 1829
and now I can see that the witnesses at her marriage were her niece Alice and brother James
One interesting thing regarding her baptism is that the home address was given as Dorset Mews and Richard was a waterman. This fits with the census in Little Chester Street, as that is the next turning to Dorset Mews. And in 1851 census the two Louisas are with Henry, journeyman farrier. The Royal Stables are around here and he may have trained with them. Nothing more to add to 2015 account.
Mary Ann Small was "my" Louisa's sister - see 31st May & 1st June 2015 - born 1849 to James & Margaret. Her fiancé Richard was witness at Louisa & Reuben's marriage the year before he married her. I suspect the death in West Ham in Jan 1932 is hers. Incidentally, her son Arthur Catling was a sergeant in the metroploitan police force in Hackney.
Monday 26th February 2018
I wasn't sure which order to treat the Henry George Smalls in, as in 2015 I found them most confusing. I think I shall just go with the familiar, so as we know Daisy & Ernest's father best here, I shall go with him first. I called him Henry George Small 2 or Junior, and dealt with him in detail on 16th May 2015 - see that tab.
I found much detail then, and can now confirm that, on leaving the asylum he went to live with Daisy - see Saturday - and her family at Bessborough Place, just off Vauxhall Bridge Road
[these are even-numbers in the photo; there is now a school on the left of photo where odd numbers were, but no reason to think they were any different]
His death was registered in the Chelsea area, just up the road.
Henry George Small Senior was his father, born 1826 - see 15th May 2015 - twin to Louisa Eliza. I now have scans of the baptism record and marriage:
Nothing new, though.
I also had a lot of detail on Henry George Small 3 aka Harry, born 1881, on 17th & 18th May 2015. He died in 1937, so was not on the 1939 Register. Emma can be seen on that at 36 Treswell Road, Dagenham. This fits in with the (unexpected for me then) fact that Harry's death was registered in the Romford area. They were on electoral roll records until 1935 in Westminster, but must have moved to Essex shortly afterwards. Son Albert can be seen in 1939 Register aged 17 working as an assembler in a Motor Works - probably Ford. Emma was UDD (housewife). This confirms what I said in 2015, that the theory of Harry reattesting to serve in WW2 was incorrect. She is shown as a widow and his probate document shows he moved to Essex with her and died there in 1937:
James Frederick Small was Henry Senior's brother (my 3xg grandfather) and I now have a scan of his baptism:
I covered him on 21st May 2015. Nothing new, apart from the fact that when he died, he was buried with his first wife Margaret in Hackney.
There was another James Frederick Small, brother of HGS2, born Oct 1856, and a 15-year-old porter in 1871 census. On 4 Oct 1879 in Bloomsbury he married Julia Jane Rogers, and he was described as a "collar cutter", part of the manufacture of shirts. The same applied in 1881 census at 24 Cooks Road, Newington, when they can be seen with their 5month son Frederick. In 1891 they had moved to Hackney, had 2 children (unfortunately they had 5 but only 2 survived) and James had started working on the Buses, in 1891 as conductor then in 1901 as driver (by which time they were back in Newington), where Julia died in 1902 aged 44, along with her last child, no doubt related deaths. He re-married on 8 Apr 1905, his new wife Sarah Elizabeth Turley, and they can be seen in 1911 census living with his widowed mother-in-law in Croydon, where he was stilll driving buses. When she died in 1914 in Croydon, James and Sarah moved to Eastbourne and took some apartments, where they can be seen in 1939 Register as Housekeepers. Frederick died aged 86 in Uxbridge. I was a little puzzled by this until I saw when Sarah died there in 1964 her probate record said she was resident at "Elmfield Red Cross Home", and no doubt James had been too.
Stop press - I just found out that I covered this James on 4th June 2015. What a shame, it reads almost the same. Oh well, it's done now.
Sunday 25th February 2018
Ernest Stanley Small was Daisy's brother, born 5 Sep 1890 in Deptford. As with Daisy, he spent a lot of his childhood in and out of workhouses and industrial schools and can also be seen at home in 1901 and 1911 censuses, in the latter listed as a coal porter. On 26 Apr 1914 at St Saviour's Battersea Park, he married Amy Louise Smith
and they can be seen together in 1939 Register. The house they lived in is fascinating, as it was designed by Sir Edwin Lutyens and built 1929-35, in a stylish chequerboard pattern. It still stands today as in 1970 it was listed.
These flats were little, but classy. Ernest was working then as a Road Sweeper and an agent of the ARP (Air Raid Precautions) Decontamination Service
He died in Jan 1953 aged 62 and Amy 3 years later.
Saturday 24th February 2018
Daisy Ethel Small was the 4th child of Louisa's cousin Henry, born 4 Jul 1888 at New Cross (registered Greenwich). She spent a very disrupted childhood, in and out of workhouses and Poor Law schools with her siblings, as her parents were not able to look after the children. In one record it states "mother in prison", while Daisy was at South Metropolitan District School in Sutton, Surrey!
Her father was in and out of the workhouse through her early years, but by the time she was 12 things must have taken an upturn - possibly due to her brothers bringing in wages. She was baptised in the Roman Catholic church at that age, and they lived at 11 Chadwick Street. This is all redeveloped now, so I don't know what it was like
Brother Harry went into the army and in 1901 census they could be seen at Chadwick Street, with several other households, but evidently settled. Her mother Louisa died a few weeks later. I see that a Louisa Small had been fined in 1900 for running a brothel just one mile away, so there may be a story there, but that's all that was reported in the newspaper. By the time of the next census, they had moved half a mile, to Vauxhall Bridge Road, where Henry can be seen working as a road sweeper for the council and Ernest was a coal porter. Daisy herself got married shortly after this, to Frederick Ernest Bowers
He was a Hawker (Salesman), who had also spent a lot of time in workhouses and industrial schools, so maybe that was how they met. In 1939 Register Daisy can be seen at 31 Bessborough Place, Westminster with 4 "children" - Frederick 24 a builder's labourer, Lilian 20 Shop Assistant, Rose 19 Chemist's Assistant and Henry 16 Delivery Boy. Also one closed file, could be a younger child I don't know of, but all I can see around the redaction is "office". Henry Small - her father - is with them, still evidently an "umbrella finisher". Although Daisy is listed as a widow, I suspect this was an assumption on the part of the enumerator, as Frederick can be seen in Alton, Hampshire, hop-picking, with his brother Joe. I cannot find a death record for him, but Daisy died in Kensington, London in the July quarter of 1973.
I told the story of Elizabeth Small on 12th May 2015. She was Louisa's sister who emigrated to Australia. I have looked, but can find nothing new apart from her funeral notice:
Friday 23rd February 2018
Moving on to my maternal great-great-grandmother Louisa Small's family.
Her sister Alice Elizabeth Small was just as unforthcoming as when I reviewed her before on 12th May 2015 for a while, but then I suddenly came across a marriage to John Daly in Marylebone
As you can see, one of the witnesses was her sister Louisa. John Daly was a bricklayer but the next time we hear of her he has left her. She was admitted to Westminster Union Workhouse 12 May 1868, with what they described as "Bad Breast" and had a child she named Margaret Mary (after her mother) 5 days later, with the note "husband absent". She readmitted "herself & child" on 26 May and 16 June, but I cannot track either of them down after this. Maybe she died, like her father did in 1871, in the workhouse, and Margaret was given a new name. A John Daly appears in the newspapers of the time, an Irish convict who was released from prison, stopped off in London for a while, and returned to Ireland, but I have no idea if this was her husband. Her brother and mother had died in 1865, then her father, as I said, followed. I cannot, however, find a death for her under this name.The only other snippet of information I have is (from the workhouse records) she was a Charwoman from 29 Broad Street.
[Broad Street 1907 - I got this from a Jack the Ripper site!] This road was the site of the water pump from which John Snow "discovered" cholera in the 1850s. But I can't find any more information at the moment. I don't think she lived there then, she would only have been a child. The 1851 census is missing for James and his two daughters. Margaret was a hospital worker and was visiting in St Geo in the East. This does not bode well, but I will return to it probably tomorrow, dealing with her sister Elizabeth then the two Jameses, father and son.
Tuesday 20th February 2018
In seeking Stephen Hatton on Friday, I built up a picture of a man, born 1758 in Hythe, Kent to Ralph Hatton and Elizabeth, married in 1781 to Mary Marsh at St Margaret-at-Cliffe (12 miles from Hythe, but it stated he was living in Buckland, locally at this time). I cannot prove this is him, but I am confident he is the one in Market Bosworth, Leics, as that was where his children were born. It seems he rented his house in Bosworth from Rev William Wood and the period 1798 to 1799 cost him 2 shillings and 8 pence. He appears in electoral roll of 1830 in Market Bosworth as a Carpenter, and I still think it likely he died on 26 Jan 1833.
His son Thomas Hatton was missed out in 2015 as I had nothing on him. Now I can fill in his details due to access to new records. He was born Feb 1788 in Market Bosworth to Stephen & Mary and christened there on 23 Mar 1788.
He married a lady called Dorothy, but I cannot locate the marriage record. There is one in Melbourne, Derbyshire 11 Jul 1818 but given that Dorothy was 48 years old and there is a note "with consent of parents" I doubt this is correct. that would give her maiden-name as Hays, but I will reserve judgment. They can be seen in censuses of 1841, 1851 & 1861 in Swepstone Village, Leics, Thomas listed as Bricklayer. In 1851 they had a lodger John Underwood, pauper framework knitter. Dorothy was 17 years older than Thomas and when she died on 20 Oct 1864 she was 94 years of age. He didn't last much longer and followed her 7 weeks later. He died 9 Dec 1864 aged 77.
Thomas Herbert Hatton was the young man who joined the army and was Killed in Action in 1917. I have now found his baptism record:
After his death his effects and backpay were sent to his father Herbert in 1919.
William Hatton (my 4xg grandfather) was dealt with on 11th May 2015, but now I can see scans of the documents: his baptism
the banns in Broughton prior to his marriage, and the ceremony on Old Dalby:
As I noted under Selina, he was minister in Broughton, and this was confirmed by his will:
In this, he left the sum of £200 to each of his daughters and all his land and buildings to son William, sole executor.
This William Hatton, my 4xg uncle, struggled, it seems, to manage his inheritance, as he ended up in court twice for failure to pay bills. In 1859 as "overseer of the poor" at Nether Broughton he omitted to pay his village's contibution to the upkeep of the workhouse, and in 1864 a "church rate", which I understand he refused to pay. Both times he was found guilty and fined. As I said in 2015, he left effects worth £422 to son Herbert and son-in-law Leonard (about £38,000 today).
Monday 19th February 2018
Herbert William Hatton was brother of Emma, Francis & Elizabeth I mentioned yesterday. I was led astray by several red herrings again, including a baptism and several electoral roll records, for another Herbert William Hatton born in the same year, or a Herbert J Hatton in the same area. So I shall stick with what I've got.
Laura Annie Hatton was his 4th child, and was dealt with on 8th May 2015 following her father. I have now located a baptism record from Old Dalby dated 19 Jan 1896
In 1939 Register she can be seen at The Lodge, The Pastures, Bingham, Notts with husband Ebenezer. There are two closed files, so I thought maybe they did have some children, and in looking have answered the query as to who the Thomas was that they left their effects to. Daughter Ruth A Cross was born in the July quarter of 1933 and son Thomas Herbert Cross was born Apr 1936. I see that they named their son after Laura's brother, who died in WW1. Although the only marriage I can find for Ruth was in 1968, she had probably left home by the time her mother died, leaving effects to her son only. Incidentally, I just noticed Laura had both her children in her fifties! I cannot track down the address in current Bingham, unfortunately, but featured the house where Laura died in 2015.
My great great great grandmother Louisa Hatton was also covered on 8th May 2015 and here is the marriage records of her and her sister:
I cannot track down a baptism for her in Leicestershire or death in London, other than the info I mentioned.
Mabel Elizabeth Hatton was youngest child of Herbert & Ann, but despite looking for baptism and 1939 Register, I found nothing new. 1939 Register was particularly frustrating as I had discovered her exact date of birth, which is usually a big help in this. As George had been in WW1, I wasn't surprised not to find him, as he may well have found a position in the forces again, as he was only 42.
Selina Hatton can be seen on the marriage lines above, witnessing the marriage of both her sisters in 1847. She herself followed a few weeks later, marrying William Lockton:
The puzzle as to why all these marriages occurred at the local church in Old Dalby but she was baptised in Broughton Sulney was answered by a close look at the baptism entry (now scanned and uploaded):
It can there be seen that William, her father, was the minister who baptised her and that was presumably his church. (Although it says "registered", this doesn't mean what we usually take it to mean, as National Registration did not come into force in Britain until 1837, 22 years later). Her second marriage registration can be seen to not have a year on it,
and the entry above it bears the year 1861, so it has been assumed to be the same. However, it appears in the list for Melton Mowbray area in Jun-Sep 1862. the other new record I found today was Thomas' probate: when he died on 19 Mar 1894 in Car Colston he left effects worth £85 14s 6d (equivalent to about £7800 today) to son Thomas, a land surveyor living in Epperstone, 6½ miles away.
Sunday 18th February 2018
Francis Hatton was son of William and Jane I mentioned yesterday, and thus brother of Emma & Elizabeth (also Herbert, see later). I started off with a red herring regarding him, as I found a bunch of Trade Directory documents in the right area but they showed him as a gardener in 1863, a farmer in 1876 & 1881. I was enthusiastic at first, as a Henry and two Williams were mentioned, but soon it dawned that in 1863 he was only 12. There was also another, a shopkeeper, but even less likely as it was dated 1849, the year before he was born!
As I stated on 7th May 2015, Francis Hatton died before his daughter was born, so they named her Frances, and I outlined her life also on that day. She was not the lady I saw many times on the electoral roll in Leicester, as I know she lived in Bedford after her marriage. However, by 1939 they can be seen at 20 Priory Road, West Bridgford, Notts (just off the Grantham Canal). Arthur was manager of a Hosiery Manufacturer company (of which there were many in Notts), Frances a housewife and Frank was still at home aged 30, a solicitor and part-time stretcher-bearer
By the time they died in 1952 they had moved across West Bridgford to 51 Kingswood Road
Francis William Hatton was the son of Herbert & Ann née Biddles, who died aged 29 three years after his marriage. He was evidently much loved and missed, as in the Grantham Journal newspaper of Feb 1921 there appeared the following:
In ever-loving memory of my dear husband Francis William Hatton, who died February 16th, 1919
Oh! How I miss him, tongue cannot tell -
The happy face I loved so well.
The fondest of memories is all that is left
Of a dear loving husband - one of the best.
From his sorrowing wife
In ever-loving memory of our dear son Francis William Hatton, who died February 16th 1919
Days of sadness still come o'er us,
Tears of sorrow often flow:
Memory keep our dear son near us, Though he died two years ago
From his loving Father, Mother & Sisters
In ever-loving memory of our dear Francis, who died February 16th 1919
God took him home, it was His will
But in our hearts he lingers still
From Mr & Mrs T Shelton & Family (his in-laws)
Friday was the 99th anniversary of his death
Saturday 17th February 2018
I am returning to genealogy as there are new records available on most sites and, as I am still paying substantial subscriptions to these, I really ought to see them.
Unsure where to start this time, I charted all the coverage in this blog and came to the conclusion that all branches of the four trees have been covered twice, and some three times, except for the four slightly more obscure families Hatton, Small, Ingram and Samways, only covered once. Thus, for no other reason but this, I feel I should start there.
I decided to start with Anne Hatton, as she was first in my folder. I knew her father was Stephen, her mother was Mary and she was baptised in Market Bosworth, Leics on 17 Apr 1785. She was the middle child with 2 brothers William born 1783 and Thomas 1788. However, I could find nothing further on her, despite searching in Ancestry, Findmypast and FamilySearch. As the name Stephen is fairly uncommon (unlike Mary, Anne, William and Thomas) I spent some time looking for him. I did find an obituary for a Mary Ann Hatton 1796-1819 giving a father's name as Stephen, but frustratingly no place was given. One thing that intrigued me was that another genealogist has put on their Ancestry tree a daughter Mary Ann with those dates - but she may have seen the same information and jumped to the same conclusion. I have also seen an obituary record in the name of Stephen, who died 26 Jan 1833 in Leicester, but cannot confirm this on Ancestry. I saw only 4 references to marriage to a Mary, all relating to nuptials in 1781 in Kent, and stating the groom was from Buckland, bride from St-Margaret-at-Cliffe. The date makes sense as their first child William came along 2 years later, but the place is a leap of faith... I cannot find marriage or death for Anne in the Leics area.
I told about my 4xgreat aunt Caroline Hatton on 1st May 2015, when I covered this family before. I can still find no baptism for her but here is the marriage to Isaac Burroughs:
There are two curious things here. One is that his father is said to be a farmer rather than schoolmaster and the other is the witnesses: William & Louisa Hatton (her siblings) and John & Jane Woodford. John Woodford was to marry her sister Louisa the following year, Jane Woodford was his sister. The two families were evidently very close. Isaac's father James was stated to be schoolmaster at his son's baptism but by the time he married was a farmer.
James died in 1837 so never appeared on a census for me to check.
Elizabeth Hatton, as I said on 2nd May 2015, was the daughter of their son William & Jane Woodford. I had all the details in 2015, so will report no new ones here.
Emma Elizabeth Hatton's 2015 account was even more detailed. She was Elizabeth's sister, and being the eldest was actually baptised:
but all the records were there already.
Emma Jane Hatton, her niece, was baptised on 17 Jun 1888 at Old Dalby:
I have also picked up more information at the other end of her life. I wasn't sure where in Leicestershire she died, but now have this on her probate document. She died aged 86 at 19 Shirley Drive, Syston, Leics on 9 Feb 1975, leaving £14,857 but the records don't say to whom by then.